DPS ↔ Healer (one grab from the other)
Tank → Melee DPS (grab from Tank)
How to debuff pass part 1:
Part 2:
General Rule:
DPS ↔ Healer (one grab from the other)
Tank → Melee DPS (grab from Tank)
How to debuff pass part 1:
Part 2:
DPS ↔ Healer (one grab from the other)
Tank → Melee DPS (grab from Tank)
How to debuff pass part 1:
Part 2:
last edited 528 weeks ago by Alethea
I wanted to post some notes and suggestions to help any group working on A3S.
In particular, I want to emphasize on communication and call-outs for this fight. I know for my group personally, most of us are quiet and expect each other to just watch and pay attention; it works out majority of the time but sometimes little misses can easily be saved with simple call-outs. I'm sure a lot of this will apply to other groups.
I want to encourage (my group especially) to do the following when appropriate:
Ideally we'd have owners to call specific mechanics.
Some of these are a little extraneous and not necessary, but I think for the final phase AT LEAST, we need to be proactive in communicating and keeping each other focused on the important things.
I think Sluice+Protean Wave or combinations of either mechanic with something else might be the most difficult mechanic to consistently nail down but once you get it, you get it?
As a monk, I'm on flank rotation when I would be grabbing tank debuff off blank ( for my group's strat). I will always move in between my GCDs, which means, as long as the tank is on blank ASAP and does not move around, I will always get the debuff in time and not miss a positional. The tank needs to trust me for this. If we both move, and on our screens, we're running on top of each other, it may be too late or inconsistent. I also can make this more consistent by giving up a positional to be in position earlier to make it more clear on the map what's happening, for progression (or throwing in an unbuffed Fracture to justify staying in that position longer).
Monk should be more optimal for first priority tank debuff because stacking for 2nd and 3rd means missing 50 potency each for consistent stacking. The first stack you can get your Demolish (or Snap Punch) proc while still registering your character's position for the stack. A tip for melees especially is that it always does the cleave after an auto-attack and it registers your position immediately after that animation, you have ~1 second to stand there and then you can move for your next positional.
Watched a bunch of kill videos and saw how other groups handle final phase mechanics. Below are my notes.
In particular, I want to emphasize on communication and call-outs for this fight. I know for my group personally, most of us are quiet and expect each other to just watch and pay attention; it works out majority of the time but sometimes little misses can easily be saved with simple call-outs. I'm sure a lot of this will apply to other groups.
I want to encourage (my group especially) to do the following when appropriate:
- If you have Dignitis Debuff, call it out (Luc on C, Ultima on Blank); for this mechanic it is important only 1 person moves to grab/give debuff and the other person stands on their position ASAP without running into anyone else.
- Final phase Dignitis, we need to extra clear (Akai on B, Luc on A, someone take off Ultima). Healers should designate a side.
- If you see the boss close or open, call it out as soon as you see it, while moving in response to it (Away, In)
- When splitting DPS on Piston Lubricants, tag your add and call your stuns (Luc has Z, move to another), (Y is casting, Teresa has stun), (I don't have my stun, someone stun X [Luc shoulder tackle stuns or Arm of the Destroyer]).
- Add phase, should have 1-5 markers on your bar somewhere for easier coordination; whoever has the least # of buttons to press should mark.
- When doing magnets, it can be hard to see who you're connected to, so the moment you see who is connected to you, call it (Luc, together, stay where you are, I'm moving to you), or (Crouton, away)
- Watch ball
- When grabbing tethers, the target should limit moving to either not moving if a tank is close or moving slightly close to a tank then stop moving. (Ultima has Akai's, Teresa has Supra's)
- (Rainie has limb marker, stay away from him, get ready to target switch and burn.)
- Healers should *always* be communicating (I need you to heal here) (You can DPS until ___) (I got Luc)
- (Focus Teresa's add)
Ideally we'd have owners to call specific mechanics.
Some of these are a little extraneous and not necessary, but I think for the final phase AT LEAST, we need to be proactive in communicating and keeping each other focused on the important things.
I think Sluice+Protean Wave or combinations of either mechanic with something else might be the most difficult mechanic to consistently nail down but once you get it, you get it?
As a monk, I'm on flank rotation when I would be grabbing tank debuff off blank ( for my group's strat). I will always move in between my GCDs, which means, as long as the tank is on blank ASAP and does not move around, I will always get the debuff in time and not miss a positional. The tank needs to trust me for this. If we both move, and on our screens, we're running on top of each other, it may be too late or inconsistent. I also can make this more consistent by giving up a positional to be in position earlier to make it more clear on the map what's happening, for progression (or throwing in an unbuffed Fracture to justify staying in that position longer).
Monk should be more optimal for first priority tank debuff because stacking for 2nd and 3rd means missing 50 potency each for consistent stacking. The first stack you can get your Demolish (or Snap Punch) proc while still registering your character's position for the stack. A tip for melees especially is that it always does the cleave after an auto-attack and it registers your position immediately after that animation, you have ~1 second to stand there and then you can move for your next positional.
Watched a bunch of kill videos and saw how other groups handle final phase mechanics. Below are my notes.
- Sluice -> Protean Wave : Everyone spreads out, ranged far-ish, melee close-ish, close to their positions but not directly on their positions for protean. As soon as the AoE circle appears from sluice, move towards your position, very slight movement is needed to be in position for the 2nd protean. You have 3 seconds to get into position after the sluice AoE circles come out. Key thing is to spread a part and not bait on your stack positions (but next to it).
- Magnet tethers : I see groups spread out evenly around the boss so it's easier to see who you're tethered to and where you need to be. So it may be a good idea to spread evenly around the boss similar to protean wave positions to handle this better. If single protean wave is in the way, you can position immediately after dodging it.
- Drainage Tether + Magnet Tethers : If tethered to the OT and you need to stack together, be close but outside of explosion and the moment the explosion animation happens, move in. If single protean wave is in the way, you have time if you position immediately after dodging.
- Sluice -> Dignititis : Bait outwards and immediately watch who has it, healers run to DPS, DPS don't move, whichever DPS is unmarked should grab tanks. Fast and controlled.
- Sluice + Single Protean + Drainage Tether : Stay spread out, dodge single protean while staying spread out and away from OT, OT must react quickly and get away.
last edited 523 weeks ago by Lucifel Caelum
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